Razer - Orochi V2

I can vouch for the Orochi V2 - love this mouse. It does run on the smaller side though, which fits my taste.

Orochi v2, only form factor remotely close from what I need a mouse to be.

Ambidextrous form factor, but the thumbs buttons are right handed. The old one was very different, never tried.

Orochi v2, you seem to be literally me, grip wise, and it's the Orochi v2. The DA will hurt your performance and is going the wrong way. The Viper is suboptimal but good. Since I got from Viper to Orochi, there is no way back. I was a Diamondback boy for a while before all that,

I use an Orochi V2, I am looking for an alternative going in the direction of the Shroud G503, that uses AA batteries. Ability to have my fingers "under the sides", longer front than the Orochi, larger at the base of my thumb, I have an hybrid "fingerpinch" grip, palm never makes contact, mouse pinched between base of thumb and base of pinky, relaxed fingers, 3 on top.

There are very few with an adjustable sensor position. I only have experience with the razer orochi V2, Taipan, viper mini, viper mini SE and gwolves hsk pro. So I can only speak on those. You'll have to do your own research on pwnage. They seem to have produced some well priced bangers from what I've heard so I doubt they'll disappoint. The sensors on all modern gaming mice are overkill nowadays so I wouldn't worry about that either. I have a €300 mouse and never used its 8k polling rate.

It's hard to recommend mice without knowing your palm size, your budget and the kind of games you play. Random recommendations here are more or less shooting in the dark. I've used both of these mice (not the DA v2 Hyperspeed specifically but the shape) - the Orochi is a nice shape if you have small hands and you play fast paced shooters. However, it's not fun replacing batteries constantly. It isn't rechargeable. DeathAdder is a classic shape that has stood the test of time (they didn't change much for like 20 years until the V3, but it is on the larger side. If you only play casually, it doesn't matter all that much. Get whatever and call it a day. Both of these options are perfectly capable mice... as long as it fits your hand well. Just remember, shape is more important than any minor sensor differences and this can make or break your experience. For example, the GPX 2 Superlight which many people consider the best mouse on the market is completely unusable for me because the shape doesn't work for me. It keeps slipping out of my hand during big flicks. Out of all mice, I've probably dropped that one the most.

None of these hold a candle to the R1. Waiting for the restock is worth it. Chimera has QC issues, V2x was too heavy for me even with an AAA battery which is what made me shift to the orochi. G304 is fine but R1 is better.

I have similar sized hands, and used to play with an op18k. I could fingertip that mouse pretty reasonably, but still sometimes the shell would stop me from getting benefit out of finger actuation. So I made a zero mouse copy for it, it's on my profile if you're interested. Not 100% sure if it fits the same PCB. Other than that I've had a lot of luck with the razor orochi series, and recent offerings from final mouse.

Both are good but the orochi one is ambidextrous while death adder is ergonomic right handed. Don't go for a death adder if you're left-handed.

Another way of looking at this is saying that true egg mice like the g305 have mirror-symmetric spherical geometry (always positive curvature), which is really great for providing grip and a base of control that will scale the more tightly you grip without causing any shifting or readjustment in your hand placement or tension. That latter point's probably the reason why the Orochi never worked for me, even though people call it an egg shape, because it was too short **and** the left side has negative curvature while the right side was almost totally flat, which caused a twisting motion when squeezing from both sides. Shape and surface texture go hand in hand. You shouldn't need to squeeze just to grip a mouse, but if your skin's too slippery for the mouse's surface texture then the true egg shape's the best hands down.

but orochi v2, it's better Logitech g304, watch optimum's review on it